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time explaining that social problems could only be solved through organisations and not by individuals, however influential and worthy their motives might be, that if he wished to contribute to the struggle to unite the African people and hasten their liberation his duty was to join the liberation movement as Chief Luthuli had done. On the question of multiracialism I reminded him that our country was the home of many races and that living together under one government was unavoidable. I thought to allay his fears by citing numerous examples in the world where different races were living together harmoniously and that there was no reason why a non racial social order in South Africa should lead to racial friction. I reminded him that South African whites were not a homegenious group and that they were a mixture of Afrikaner, English, French, German, Greeks, Jews, Portuguese, and Spaniards who differed in their historical backgrounds and culture but who lived together peacefully.

I repudiated the suggestion that our method would lead to bloodshed and racial strife and showed that it was precisely because of the peaceful and non violent methods we had consistently followed throughout our history of more than 40 years that worse massacres had been avoided, that the people who deserved his rebuke were his friends, the Nationalist government, whose cruelty and racialism was well known and who easily resorted to the rifle as the ordinary means of dealing with genuine grievances of the African people. It was the wicked schemes of such men that he was now urging us to accept as the blueprint for our freedom.

We argued through the night right until dawn. Early in the discussion he invited both A.P.Mda and